| Date Posted: 12/21/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008 Number of Replies: 58 Last Post: 2/9/2009 |
| Conflux Partial Spoiler |         http://www.mtgsalvation.com/conflux-spoiler.html                  Here's the link to the site. Discuss.                   |
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|         Wordly Counsel is a weaker version of Impulse, but could still be pretty good in Extended. Fusion Elemental could be playable in an elemental deck, but it seems much weaker than Horde of Notions for the same casting cost.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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|         Fiery Fall - a way for red to search for mana. Looks interesting.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Martin Stanley Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         Well this block reminds me even more of Invasion block now that they are doing spells based on the number of land types you have in play but still interesting. That 8/8 elemental dude for one of each color of mana is interesting but with Horde of Notions still in Standard it may not get played much.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Ben Warren Member Since: 3/18/2008
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|         I wish that Obelisk of Alara only cost like 4 mana. It would be soooo much better. However, all of those abilities wrapped into one is very cool.
Pwn'd. |
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Zack Strait Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         I lol'd so hard at fusion elemental's flavor text.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Matthew Ratz Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         I have updated the psrtial spoiler list on this site now, and will continue to do that daily so.... yeah. You can see it here as well as mtgsalvation!
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Tim Scott Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         The sedraxis alchemist has a pretty neat ability for a 2/2 black creature.                   For anyone who doesn't know worldly counsel is a reprint from Invasion so does anyone think the other domain cards will show up?
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Matthew Ratz Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         Is it just me or does the conflux expansion symbol look very transformers-ish?
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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|         Perhaps it's more than meets the eyes.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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|         More than meets the eye.          Exotic Orchard is the reverse Reflecting Pool.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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|         I defer to the expertise of a far more knowledgable Transformers geek.          Exotic Orchard is basically Fellwar Stone as a land. It should be very good with all the Vivid Lands and Reflecting Pools out there. I wonder if it will produce all 5 colors of mana if an opponent controls a Reflecting Pool ut no other mana producing lands. Is the potential mana production from the Reflecting Pool sufficient?
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         I dont think so. Reflecting Pool only produces what other lands you control could produce. But, if a player controls just a Reflecting Pool with no other lands, Exotic Orchard produces nothing. |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Paul King Member Since: 4/12/2008
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|         Exploding Borders is modeled after Collapsing borders. And fiery fall is the landcycling. Definitely like Martin said, it looks like invasion block sort of.
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Zack Strait Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         I vote for an armidillo cloak reprint.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Martin Stanley Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         Armadillo Cloak and Shield of the Oversoul would be awesome together. Hey Zack when are you coming back to The Horse?
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         How about a new "faux" Birds...                   (dont remember name)          G          Exalted          T: Add G,W,or U to mana pool.          0/1          This was rumored on mtgsalvation |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         Also...          3RRR          Creature-Dragon          Flying          When this comes into play, discard your hand. Target player/opponent sacrifices creatures equal to the number of cards discarded.          6/6          |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         The "Bant Bird"s name is Noble Hierarch.          |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Zack Strait Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         lol, martin, dont act like the fat kids didnt tell you what happened. So im not sure.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Martin Stanley Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         Yep they told me, I just didn't want to spill the beans on the website here. At least you still have some internet access so maybe it's not all that bad??
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 12/23/2008 Posted By: Zack Strait Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         Sort of.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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|         Move over Icy Manipulator, Scepter of Dominanceis here to take your place. You can tap those Planeswalkers down! Scepter of Fugue is bad either.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 12/25/2008 Posted By: Paul King Member Since: 4/12/2008
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|         How does a rhino have a power of 0?????? :Noble Hierarch
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| Date Posted: 12/25/2008 Posted By: Zack Strait Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         His power level.... ITS OVER 9000!?! (Most likely you don't get the reference if you don't troll the internet)
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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|         Hmm, cheaper white, balck and blue versions of Icy Manipulator, Disrupting Scepter, and Jaymede Tome. It will be intersting to see if these are actually played. With the reduced casting/activation costs, each seem playable. These were among the best artifacts in the game in the early days of Magic. Those of us who used to play the Weissman Deck have an enduring fondness for Jaymede Tome and Disrupting Scepter.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| Date Posted: 12/25/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         Apparently, some info has been released for Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker.                   CC: 4UBBR          +3: Destroy target noncreature permanent.          -?: Gain control of target creature. (don't know if it is permanent.)                   His other ability is said to be more broken than Cruel Ultimatum, but its cost is -9. No info on starting loyalty. And there are speculations that he may have more than 3 abilities. |
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| Date Posted: 12/25/2008 Posted By: Paul King Member Since: 4/12/2008
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|         The white scepter will be very useful.
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Ben Warren Member Since: 3/18/2008
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|         What do you guys think about Path to Exile? Better or worse than Condemn?
Pwn'd. |
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|         Path to Exile seems even better than Swords to Plowshares in an environment in which no one plays basic lands. Unlike Condemn it does not require the creature to be attacking.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Martin Stanley Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         So the casting cost on Nicol Bolas is 8 total mana? That seems a little steep.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Zack Strait Member Since: 4/9/2008
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|         Lol, since when is a cost too much in standard?
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Martin Stanley Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         I guess but he would be the only Planeswalker above the 5 mana mark right? Maybe if he has 8 Loyalty counters when he comes into play then resolving his big ability will be easier.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Josh Hendricks Member Since: 8/7/2008
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|         it sounds like his first two abilities are going to be...          (+3) destroy target non-creature permanent          (-2) gain control of target creature                   they aren't saying what the last ability is or how many loyalty counters he gets but the last ability will cost -9
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         Josh, I believe you are correct on the second ability. I think his starting loyalty will be 5 or 6 since is first ability is +3. And Martin, wouldn't you pay 8 mana for something more game-changing than Cruel Ultimatum? |
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|         Of course Path to Exile is better than Condemn or Swords To Plowshares. Being to remove a creature whenever and not giving them life. They get a tapped basic land... eh.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Martin Stanley Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         It depends what other cards you play with him and what his big ability actually is. I guess he would work well in a control deck.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 12/26/2008 Posted By: Paul King Member Since: 4/12/2008
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|         He's a big planeswalker DRAGON, most legendary dragons have a high enough casting cost and this one is a planeswalker. His abilities will probably be bomb though.
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| Date Posted: 12/29/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         Esperzoa (2)(U)          Artifact Creature - Jellyfish (U)          Flying          At the beginning of your upkeep, return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.          4/3                   Extractor Demon (4)(B)(B)          Creature - Demon (R)          Flying          Whenever another creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target player put the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.          Unearth (2)(B)          5/5                   Giltspire Avenger (W)(U)(G)          Creature - Human Soldier (R)          Exalted          (T): Destroy target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.          2/2                   This was posted by a blogger, I think, in the Rumor Mill on MTG Salvation. |
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| Date Posted: 12/29/2008 Posted By: Matthew Ratz Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         Again I have these cars listed in the spoiler section also!
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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|         Esperzoa will be a player in type 2. The other two are good in limited. I noticed they have Domain as a keyword now.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 12/31/2008 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         Great! White gets a pseudo Memory Lapse, but it is very cool. It'll see some use in type 2. |
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|         Esperzoa with Elsewhere Flask could be pretty disgusting. Draw a card every turn for 2 colorless anyone?
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 1/2/2009 Posted By: Ben Warren Member Since: 3/18/2008
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|         Looks like artifacts are going to be extremely relevant in the near future. Green and white are going to be very popular colors, along with the black and blue artifacts.......
Pwn'd. |
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|         Looks like Shatterstorm is gonna be in some sideboards.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 1/2/2009 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         Along with Hurkyl's Recall.                   |
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|         Martial Coup XWW          Sorcery          Put X 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens into play. If X is 5 or greater, destroy all other creatures.                   Martial Coup will be one of the best cards to get in limited. I can see it in constructed too.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 1/7/2009 Posted By: Matthew Ratz Member Since: 2/29/2008
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|         More cards add to the spoiler section.
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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|         How about Telemin Performance as a replacement for Bribery? Also opponents who don't play a lot of creatures could get decked easier.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 1/23/2009 Posted By: Ben Warren Member Since: 3/18/2008
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|         I'm thinking more of a sideboard option for a mill deck. A lot of decks depend on their graveyards nowadays.
Pwn'd. |
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|         What about decks that don't have any creature cards in their library... Planeswalker decks?
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 1/23/2009 Posted By: Ben Warren Member Since: 3/18/2008
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|         I haven't seen a planeswalker deck that doesn't have a creature. Even mine had 3 Realm Razer. However, using Telemin Performance for one of those Realm Razers would be sweet.
Pwn'd. |
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| Date Posted: 2/5/2009 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         My "Scoop City" deck uses no creatures mainboard. Only 4, maybe 5 in the sideboard. |
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|         Haha, I'm aiming at your deck then. Also, Does Teps use creatures?
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 2/6/2009 Posted By: Ben Warren Member Since: 3/18/2008
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|         What happens if you play Telemin Performance and your opponent doesn't have any creatures? Would it end in a draw because the spell never resolves? Or can you say that you failed to find a creature, and put all cards into their graveyard?        
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|         Target opponent reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals a creature card. That player puts all noncreature cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard, then you put the creature card into play under your control.                 The player reveals no creatures, puts all noncreatures cards revealed into their graveyard, and no creature comes into play on your side. Basically they are decked. When they draw next round they better have a way to save them self or they lose.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Date Posted: 2/6/2009 Posted By: Penny Dude Member Since: 5/1/2008
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|         That is correct. |
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|         TEPS doesn't normally use creatures,but TEPS players could probably start adding Simian Spirit Guide if Telemin Performance ever becomes popular.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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|         Well then I'm going to get a kick ass 2/2 guy.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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