 | Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
Number of Replies: 20
Last Post: 9/22/2009 |
| | Holy S*** Balls!!!!!!!!! | Lotus Cobra
1G
Creature-Snake
Mythic Rare
Landfall- Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
2/1
Really Wizards? Really?
I'll cast my turn 3 Ultimatums now, thank you very much.
Imagine:
Turn 1 Forest, Noble Hiearch.
Turn 2 Fetchland, Tap Forest and Hierarch for Lotus Cobra.
Turn 3 Fetchland, Add black with cobra, sac both fetch lands getting 2 mountains. Add black and red with cobra. Tap forest and hiearch for green each. Tap Mountains for red. Cast Violent Ultimatum. Destroy all of their lands and or creatures.
And I JIZZ IN MY PANTS!!!!!
What the eff! I'll take my 3rd turn Identity Crisis. Or Baneslayer Angel. Or Broodmate Dragon. Or.....you get the idea.
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 | Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| And he is a mythic rare right? How much money is this one going to sell for? You think $30-$40 range? I think it is possible. Even without a turn 3 Ultimatum this card can speed up Bloodbraid Elf and lots of other cards. Sure he can be killed easily enough but if they waste a kill spell on him then you still have plenty of other threats later.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| It's going to be at least Tarmogoyf prices if not more.
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| Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I just checked and the pre-sale price on Ebay is now $90 for a playset of them, it may go up once people put this one in some decks.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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 | Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Matthew Ratz
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| that seems good.
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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 | Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| Ben gets way to fucking excited about average cards. $15 after standard gets familliar with the new block.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| It is mythic so I can see it staying around $20-$25 at least.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| He should be pretty awesome in Eternal formats, particularly when combined with Fastbond.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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 | Date Posted: 9/17/2009
Posted By: Paul King
Member Since: 4/12/2008
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| Comparable to other famous two drops (Dark Confidant, Wild Mongrel, etc).
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| Date Posted: 9/18/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| Zack, I'm pretty sure you're completely wrong on this one. And I'm sorry, but this guy is just SOOO much better than Dark Confidant or Wild Mongrel ever was in the right deck. When those guys were in the Standard format, you couldn't even remotely get something as spectacular and game-winning as a third turn Ultimatum. Not only can his ability win you the game, but he is a MUST DEAL WITH creature, leaving you open to playing, say a Baneslayer when they just used their removal on my 2/1. Does anybody remember the card Black Lotus? Every single time you play a fetch land, it's like playing a Black Lotus with this guy in play. Only this time, you get to choose 3 different colors of mana if you wanted, and not just one color for the 3 mana. Can anybody tell me how much a Black Lotus effects a game? Anybody?
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| Date Posted: 9/18/2009
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I pretty much agree with you Ben, although the 3rd turn Ultimatum will happen about 1% of the time but a 2/1 body on this guy makes him a threat if you get Bloodbraid Elf on turn 3 plus some other haste creature with the cascade you can swing for at least 8-9 damage that turn. I also think this card is going to be worth money because it is a mythic rare and playable and it has Lotus in it's name and Lotus in a card's name always equals a little extra value.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 9/18/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| Absolutely. Turn 2 this guy, turn 3 harrow wouldn't be too uncommon, and you can ramp to cards like that 8/8 uncounterable guy and identity crisis.
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| Date Posted: 9/18/2009
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Identity Crisis would be real nice! At least there will be a 4 mana Wrath card so if you just ramp into a bunch of creatures your opponent still has a chance to clear the board.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Ben, you are right on the money. This snake is going to have a huge impact on Standard. Cards like Harrow and the new fetch lands just sweeten the deal.
Also important to note that this cobra's ability stacks; ergo, multiple Lotus Cobras will net extra mana.
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 9/19/2009
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| Kind of wrong on the whole Black lotus with one fetchland thing ben. Black Lotus dosen't cause you to tap a land to get the 3 mana. The land you fetch must be tapped to get the 3 mana.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 9/19/2009
Posted By: Paul King
Member Since: 4/12/2008
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| I'll admit, this card is good and can cause some combos, but fragile ones. The ultimatum just got Spell Pierced, so now what? There will be people trying to make a great combo deck, but I'll be fine just to use it in a U/G control for acceleration. I do like the part about the Terra Stomper though. So, in all it is powerful but its combo ideas can be fragile at times.
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| Date Posted: 9/19/2009
Posted By: Matthew Ratz
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| You just brought up a great point Paul about Control... I got 1 fetch in play, and you play something that hurts, so I can fetch some kind of island and counterspell. Suprise! I hope i see a few of these in the thieves auctions I win!
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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| Date Posted: 9/21/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| Kind of wrong, Zack? Since when is only using one resource to get 3 mana not a black lotus?
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| Date Posted: 9/21/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| The entire time I've been talking about this guy is in the best case scenario. Think about him in just your average aggro deck. Whats so bad about playing Ranger of Eos plus a Wild Nacatl on turn 3?
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| Date Posted: 9/21/2009
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| Oh, and please don't compare this guy to Tarmogoyf. He's not Tarmogoyf and no card will probably ever be as good. You can easily compare this guy to Rofellos, though. Insane ramp. Thats all he is on a 2/1 body. Probably not the 30-40 dollar rare that everyone thinks at this moment in time, but he can easily settle around 20. He will be a tournament staple, no doubt.
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| Rofellos is awfully good, and the Lotus Cobra is definitely in the same league.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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