 | Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Jeff Peel
Joined before August '08
Number of Replies: 17
Last Post: 6/25/2010 |
| | New Banned/Restricted Lists | As of July 1, Sword of the Meek, and Hypergenesis are banned in Extended, and Mystical Tutor is banned in Legacy.
Thoughts?
This was on Evan Erwin's "The Magic Show", so I'm 100% sure it's correct. |
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 | Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| What the fuck is all I can say. Thopter foundry and hypergenesis are both tier 1 decks in extended, but not broken to the point of banning. Mystical is a staple of blue in legacy, but it seems comparable to them banning Jace in standard.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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 | Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I didn't realize that Hypergensis was winning a bunch of tourny's? I know it is a top 8 deck but I didn't realize that everyone was playing it?? I know that Mystical Tutor was banned in Legacy when I first started playing Magic so I am not surprised it is banned again.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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 | Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Matthew Ratz
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Well, Jace isn't even good.
Maybe the Eldrazi had a strong impact on hypergenesis. And since I have never played with or against sword of the meek, I don't really know, but the combo seems pretty broken. Or maybe Wizards just wants everyone to buy new cards
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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| Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Jeff Peel
Joined before August '08
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| Yeah, Im not too angry about the extended stuff, but there was no reason at all for Mystical Tutor to get banhammered. Sure, almost all of the blue decks in the format play it, but I would call it far from broken to the point of deserving the kick in the ass. What's gonna be next? Fetchlands being banned in legacy?
This was on Evan Erwin's "The Magic Show", so I'm 100% sure it's correct. |
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| Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Announcement Date: June 18, 2010
Effective Date: July 1, 2010
Magic Online Effective Date: July 14, 2010 (after the scheduled downtime)
Magic: The Gathering Tournament Rules Change: Extended
On July 1, 2010, the following sets will leave the Extended format: Ninth Edition, Mirrodin, Darksteel, Fifth Dawn, Champions of Kamigawa, Betrayers of Kamigawa, Saviors of Kamigawa, Ravnica: City of Guilds, Guildpact, Dissension, and Coldsnap. From that point forward, the Extended format will include approximately four years of Magic sets instead of seven.
At that time, the following sets will be legal in the Extended format: Time Spiral, Planar Chaos, Future Sight, Tenth Edition, Lorwyn, Morningtide, Shadowmoor, Eventide, Shards of Alara, Conflux, Alara Reborn, Magic 2010, Zendikar, Worldwake, and Rise of the Eldrazi.
With the upcoming release of Scars of Mirrodin, the following sets will leave the Extended format: Time Spiral, Planar Chaos, Future Sight, and Tenth Edition. One year's worth of releases will leave Extended with every subsequent fall Magic set.
Extended
Sword of the Meek is banned.
Hypergenesis is banned.
Note: The four cards previously on the banned list AEther Vial, Disciple of the Vault, Sensei's Divining Top, and Skullclamp) are in sets that are no longer in the Extended format.
Legacy
Mystical Tutor is banned.
Grim Monolith is no longer banned.
Illusionary Mask is no longer banned.
Zendikar Block Constructed, Standard, Vintage
No changes
Changes to Magic Online–only formats are now announced monthly in the Magic Online Community Group blog.
For an explanation of this announcement, read The Week That Was column today and the Latest Developments column next Friday, June 26. For the complete list of all banned and restricted cards by format, click here.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| So they unbanned Grim Monolith and Illusionary Mask? The Mask doesn't matter as I think Dreadnaught was the only viable card to use with it but Grim Monolith still has Power Artifact for the infinate mana combo doesn't it?
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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 | Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Penny Dude
Member Since: 5/1/2008
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| I think the reason behind the Extended bannings is because everyone will play those 2 decks because they are already established archetypes. Wizards wants players to create new decks instead on falling back on those decks. |
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| Date Posted: 6/19/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I do think they need to shake Extended up as it seemed to me at least to be a format that has lost a lot of popularity.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 6/20/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| "Well, Jace isn't even good."
Wat.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Mystic Tutor was banned primarily because it is the key card in Legacy reanimator and TEPS decks. Reanimator decks have done well in recent large events, but they haven't really been dominating the format. Zoo decks have had the most top 8 finishes in the SSG 5k tournaments, and nobody is calling for them to ban Wild Nacatal or Tarmogoyf.
Wizards seems to be making an effort to make older formats (i.e. Extended and Eternal) more interactive and less combo oriented. The goal seems to be to make creature decks more playable and hate out combo decks that win in 1 or 2 turns without the opponent being able to play any significant cards of his or her own (at least pre-sideboarding). Hypergenesis and Thopter Foundry are the two primnary combo decks in Extended and Wizards is trying hard to make Extended into a more fun format that people actually want to play. Thopter-Foundry decks became dominant towards the end of the last Extended season, and apparently Wizards wanted to do everything possible to reinvigorate the format. Hypergenesis was never particularly dominant, but it was a deck that could win on turn one or two without the opponent ever being able to do anything. Viable combo decks still exist in both Extended and Legacy, but they tend to be slower, more interactive decks (such as Painter's-Grindstone or Living End). It's kind of surprising that they haven't done anything to hate out Dredge decks though, as Dredge is probably the least fun deck to play against in either format.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| With Ravnica leaving extended, won't Dredge be dead there?
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| Good point. It's still a pretty big player in Legacy though.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| Date Posted: 6/24/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| Anyone else think that Seismic Swans, Dragonstorm and Dralnu/Faeries and going to be th big extended decks now?
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 6/24/2010
Posted By: Penny Dude
Member Since: 5/1/2008
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| Maybe, but only for 5 months... |
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| Anybody else see Tarmogoyf drop to $50.00?
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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| That's strange. Tarmagoyf is out of Time Spiral Block, so he should be legal in the new Extended. And he sees a ton of play in Vintage/Legacy.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| "With the upcoming release of Scars of Mirrodin, the following sets will leave the Extended format: Time Spiral, Planar Chaos, Future Sight, and Tenth Edition. One year's worth of releases will leave Extended with every subsequent fall Magic set."
So in 4 months or whenever Scars comes out it rotates out.
"True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read." - Pliny the Elder |
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