 | Date Posted: 9/22/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
Number of Replies: 28
Last Post: 11/10/2010 |
| | Scars is fully spoiled now | I believe Scars is now fully spoiled on MTGSalvation and other sites so check it out.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Including our site. Spoiler is complete minus the 20 basic lands...which I'm not putting in.
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 9/22/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| So what are your guys' thoughts on the set? Like it? Hate it? How big of a impact will it make on the Standard environment?
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Having only a cursory look at Scars, I think the impact will be large, but not because it's a super awesome set. Rather, the impact will be felt because of so many sets leaving (e.g. M10, Shards Sets). There seems to be A LOT of equipment, which is weird. I think the infect ability is going to have some impact, in much the same way wither did, but with the added bonus of some poison wins. Trust me...there will be poison wins. Metalcraft is either going to be all over the place or confined to one really good deck. Not sure which yet. White and Blue seem the most interesting with metalcraft. Overall I'm kinda so-so on this set. Maybe Mirrodin permanently jaded me towards artifact heavy sets. There are several cards I'm excited about though, and I will post a top ten shortly.
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama |
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 | Date Posted: 9/22/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| "I'm josh, and i'm sure cloudpost will be back!" Dick.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| maybe not Cloudpost...but there is a locus! It just kinda blows.
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama |
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 | Date Posted: 9/23/2010
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| The thing I'm most excited about in this set is Infect.
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| Date Posted: 9/23/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I think the only thing that excites me about this set is Infect, a green/black infect Standard deck is possible I think.
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 9/25/2010
Posted By: The Mike Dale
Member Since: 5/31/2009
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| The new masticore is going to be a killer. Koth and elspeth tirel will be good, but in my opinion, venser is way over-rated. Wurmcoil engine is going to be good. I think that the new mox is horrible. I would really love to see a good myr deck take down some tournaments, but I think that I am just being hopefull. Overall, I think that this new mirrodin set is awesome, as there are several new cards that I didnt mention that are awesome. ( the new 4/3 with metalcraft that blinks comes to mind! ) I dont think that the new dual-lands are any better than the M10 dual-lands, however. The only problem that I see with the new set is that it probably is going to be the most expensive newer set in the last 6-10 years. I can think of 5 mythics off the top of my head that will be $35 or more. Ratchet bomb and the new lands will command a decent price ( I see the bomb geting $15-$25 dollars price ). This new set is going to be insanely expensive!
" We are 5 days away from fundamentaly transforming the united states of america " - Barrack Obama |
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| Non-mythic rares seldom rise above $10 these days. The planeswalkers are each pre-selling for $50.00 on Star City Games.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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 | Date Posted: 9/26/2010
Posted By: adam olson
Joined before August '08
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| It's sooo slooow
"Have you ever seen a more beautifully punted baby?"- Bill Dauterive |
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| Date Posted: 9/29/2010
Posted By: The Mike Dale
Member Since: 5/31/2009
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| Usually, that is correct christian. Most rares top out at about $10 if they are good. However, look at fauna shaman. Down here you cant find a fauna shaman for under $15. And I will tell you this, grand architect is hands down better than shaman. Mark my words, there is going to be a blue ( or maybe blue/white? ) architect deck that will be a major player in standard over the next year or so.
" We are 5 days away from fundamentaly transforming the united states of america " - Barrack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 9/29/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| I've been working with Mono blue grand arhitect deck, and no matter how much it is tuned, it just can't beat most of the Teir 1 decks.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| I got a Fauna Shaman at Capital City for $9 a few weeks ago, and I thnk Martin has some for around $8. You are right about prices varying by region though. I remember card prices being much higher in Chicago the last time I was there. I kind of like Grand Architect as another lord in a merfolk deck, although he isn't a merfolk himself.
Overall this set seems really weak to me. Compared to Llorwyn or Shards the power level seems quite low. I like Koth a lot, but he will likely only be good in mono-red decks. Elspeth is pretty good, and Venser might have potential. At 5cc neither will likely be played as more than a 1 or 2 of though. I do like Ratchet Bomb and Wurmcoil Engine a lot. The set seems well balanced for limited but underpowered for constructed play. Zvi Mowshowitz really slams the set in his reviews on Star City. The title "Scars of Mirrodin Set Review: I Came Back for This?" sums things up pretty well. I strongly agree with him that Scars has fewer constructed playable cards than any set in a long time. If nothing else this will probably be a cheap set for me to collect though.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| Date Posted: 10/9/2010
Posted By: The Mike Dale
Member Since: 5/31/2009
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| I agree with you, christian, about the weakness of this set. This set is very top heavy, meaning that the mythics and rares are about the only good cards in the set. All 3 planeswalkers are good, along with wurmcoil engine, mox ( which is ok, not good ), ratchetbomb, and masticore are all good, along with the spikeshot elder. Cedrick phillips convinced me about the elder. There are probably a few more good cards in scars, but I havent goten the oppurtunity to play vs. the majority of them yet. But let me say this, VENSER IS AWESOME!!!!!! I know that I dogged on him earlier, but I was wrong / stupid / dumb / misinformed!!! I played U/W control the last 3 tourneys. I dont have venser. But I played vs. the mirrormatch. My opponent HAD venser. Other than that, our lists were similar. I never came close to winning a single game! Venser is nuts in control, alowing you to slide out your own wall of omens. Imagine taking one of your opponents lands with volition reins. Your opponent plays a planeswalker. Slide out your own reins using venser. Blowout! Vensers emblem is unbeatable usually. You can even rescue a manland that your opponent has neutralized with spreading seas. You can reuse your journey to nowhere, recarge your planeswalkers, Anything. I am very hardheaded, all of you know this, but believe me when I say that venser is amazing! And I dont think that " cheap " can be used to describe this set. At least not where I live. Both koth and venser run $50 down here, with elspeth and the mox at $40. Wurmcoil engine sits at $20. What do you guys have to pay for those cards? ( I miss hobbyhorse prices!!!!!!!!!!!! )
" We are 5 days away from fundamentaly transforming the united states of america " - Barrack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 10/9/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Koth=$35, Venser=$30, Elspeth=$30, Mox Opal=$25 and Wurmcoil=$10. Good old Horse still has the best prices around:)
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 10/9/2010
Posted By: The Mike Dale
Member Since: 5/31/2009
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| Tears. Agony. Misery. Sadness. Depression. Envy. In all seriousness, I really wish that I could make it back to the horse every once in a while to pick up cards, that would be awesome. Imagine paying $2 for a condemn or a durress. They still have path marked at $4 even after rotation! I miss the horse sometimes.
" We are 5 days away from fundamentaly transforming the united states of america " - Barrack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 10/10/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| Venser is WAY too win more. It makes the control mirror a bit better, but makes aggro matches roughly 67 times worse. Drew top 8ed States here with a U/W control list we put together the night before, and litterally thanked me for telling him not to run Venser. Looking at it, the only maybe 2 matches it would have been good in he won anyway.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 10/10/2010
Posted By: The Mike Dale
Member Since: 5/31/2009
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| Maybe your right, but all that from my prespective, venser was amazing. Of course, I only played the mirror when my opponent had venser and I didnt, but it seemed downright crazy to play aginst. The emblem is just way to easy to obtain, and after you have it, you just cant lose.
" We are 5 days away from fundamentaly transforming the united states of america " - Barrack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 10/10/2010
Posted By: The Mike Dale
Member Since: 5/31/2009
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| And who is Drew? Did he play at the horse when I was there, or is he a newcomer?
" We are 5 days away from fundamentaly transforming the united states of america " - Barrack Obama |
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| Date Posted: 10/11/2010
Posted By: Zack Strait
Member Since: 4/9/2008
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| Drew Bergschnider, plays at Capital City mostly.
"The shit look like ya hand when you be doin a shadow puppet for a duck n shit nahmean. Shit be lookin like it jus caught a pop fly in center field n whatever whatever nahmean." re: Ghostface Killa on lil' kim's vagina. |
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| Date Posted: 10/30/2010
Posted By: Chris Mitchell
Member Since: 10/30/2010
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 | Date Posted: 10/30/2010
Posted By: Matthew Ratz
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Chris, I'm not sure we have met, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, however these opinions need to be shared in a respectful manner. Failure to comply will get you banned from posting.
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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 | Date Posted: 11/8/2010
Posted By: Jack Strait
Member Since: 11/8/2010
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| I agree with Chris Mitchel, fuck that martin guy. As you may suspect, I have used a clever alias to desguise my true identity, much like Chris Mitchel. And don't even bother checking my ip, because I am on Dylan's computer! Haha! |
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| Date Posted: 11/8/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Damn you Jack Strait, damn you to Hell!!
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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| Date Posted: 11/8/2010
Posted By: Matthew Ratz
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| sillyness
Playing to Win is Playing for Fun - Matthew Ratz |
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| Date Posted: 11/8/2010
Posted By: Jack Strait
Member Since: 11/8/2010
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| Muuuhahahahaha! I shall bring the whole world into chaos! Hail Cthulhu! |
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| Praise be to he whose name we dare not mention!
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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| Date Posted: 11/10/2010
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Captain Jack Strait is leading a expedition At the Mountains of Madness...Noooooo!!
Terry Hoitz: I'm like a peacock, you gotta let me fly! |
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